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 From : Sergei Kostarev                     2:5054/2.28     Sat 10 Sep 94 12:32 
 Subj : about mice                                                              

Hi Michael!


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 From : wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de               2:5020/299.100  Sun 08 Jan 95 15:07 
 Subj : Unknown                                                                 

>
> I don't know if a PS/2 mouse will work on a serial=port, but I now have a
> serial-mouse working on a PS/2 mouse-port.

> >>  > 1 Data                   5.u.6
> >>  > 2 No connection         3.   .4
> >>  > 3 Ground                 1. .2
> >>  > 4 +5V DC
> >>  > 5 Clock
>         ^^^^^

> Note: the above pin-out is respective of the mouse and not the
> board-connector!

> I now have a serial-mouse working on the PS/2 mouse-port on my PC. I
> discovered a PS/2-to-Serial adaptor in the mouse box,

If your mouse came with a PS/2-to-Serial adaptor this incates that
your mouse is able to run the PS/2 mouse protocol. I've also such
a mouse which can operate on serial and PS/2 mouse ports (QTronix
Mouse) and autodetects the port it's connected to.


>however as stated
> before, my system board doesn't have the PS/2 connector, but in it's place
> are pin-headers. I wired the DB9 serial connector as follows:

>                 DB9                     PS/2 Port

> Pin             5 GND                   3 GND

>                 6 DSR                   1 Data

>                 8 CTS                   4 5+ VDC

>                 9 RI                    5 Clock

I assume...    ...mouse?               ...computer?


> It's interesting that the mouse driver can reprogramme status-signals such
> as DSR to carry the data!

I'm a little bit confused. You said that you connected a serial mouse
to a PS/2 port (the pin-headers). If that's the case the mouse driver
didn't reprogram DSR (of the mouse!). What you have then is PS/2 mouse
signals with a DB9 adapter. This (DB9 adapter) is supported by many PS/2
capable mice like Microsoft Mouse, Logitech MouseMan etc.. and the mouse
driver just detects a PS/2 mouse on a PS/2 mouse port.
BTW, a good information about mice types etc. is the Linux Mouse HOWTO
document you can get from many ftp servers.

Do you have perhaps a ASUS mainboard? Which mouse you are using?

Thanks,
Thomas
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 299.COMP.IBM.PC.HA (2:5020/299)  299.COMP.IBM.PC.HA 
 From : UZS1C3@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de         2:5020/299.100  Mon 09 Jan 95 14:18 
 Subj : Re: PS/2 Mouse adapter for ASUS board - where???                        

>Try making an adapter yourself:
>
>Mouse Port       DB9-Connenctor        PS/2 mause-Port      Signal
>  Asus                                     Connector
>  1                  5                        2               GND
>  2                  9                        3               CLK
>  3                  -                        -               NC
>  4                  8                        5               +5V
>  5                  1                        1               DATA
>  6                  -                        -               -
>  7                  -                        -               -
>  8                  -                        -               NC
>----------                                 3 4
> 1234              12345                   + +
> ++++              +++++                 2+   +5
> +  +               ++++                  1+|+6
> 5  8               6789                    |
>
>Source: c't magazin fuer computertechnik, okt 1994. page 272.
>
>Clemens.

Did anybody succesfully use a such made cable? I did before looking
at the connector of my Microsoft Home Mouse. It did not work and cant
work if you look at the holes in your mouse connector that have contacts.
For instance pin 9 on isnt connected on the db9 connector of my mouse.

-+-
Konstantin Wiesel
Pariser-Str.54
53117 Bonn
Tel.:+49-228-687944
Email:uzs1c3@uni-bonn.de
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 From : Anatoliy A.Gordovskiy               2:463/555.15    Mon 03 Apr 95 23:54 
 Subj : PS/2 mouse                                                              


     
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2- NC    I/O
3- GND   GND
4- +5V   RWR
5- Clock I/O
6- GND   GND

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 SU.HARDW.PC.MOTHERBOARD (2:5020/299)  SU.HARDW.PC.MOTHERBOARD 
 From : Aleksey Egorov                      2:5020/341      Thu 05 Oct 95 02:50 
 Subj : Re: ASUSTeK PVI-486SP3 and PS/2 mouse port                              

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Q06) How to connect a mouse to the PS2 mouse connector on
     ASUS mainboards ? Which mice are PS2 compatible ?

Most mice don't support the PS/2 signals. Consider all the cheap
Taiwanese mice shipping with most clones. Some pointing devices from
Logitech and the Sicos Colani mouse are known to be PS2 compatible.
All combination mice (serial and PS2 compatible) need two sets of leads
in their cable: one for serial, one for PS/2. Only the adapter that comes
with the mouse should be used, as there is no real standard for which
pins on the DB9 will carry the four PS/2 signals.
To connect a PS2 compatible mouse, either ask your local dealer for
a special cable, or make one on your own.

   onbaord PS2-mouse connector  |   pin #  signal
      (view: component side)    |
   --------------------------   |     1    GND
                                |     2    CLK
           1  3  5  7           |     3    DATA
                                |     4    missing pin
           2  o  o  8           |     5    N/C
                                |     6    missing pin
    (o's are missing pins)      |     7    +5 V
                                |     8    N/C
                                |

   Thank you Wolfgang Esslinger (wolfgang@ims.uni-stuttgart.de) for the
   advice to label the connector as it is usual for a ribbon cabel.

   ----------------------------------------------------------------------
                                     |
   PS2-Mouse Socket                  |
   (front view: not soldering side)  |    pin #  signal
   -------------------------         |
                                     |     1      DATA
            1    2                   |     2      N/C
                                     |     3      GND
          3        4                 |     4      +5 V
                                     |     5      CLK
            5    6                   |     6      N/C
              []                     |
                                     |
         [] is the hole              |

    Tip from Markus Plauen (apatpgpauman@apa.co.at): If the connector on
    mainboard was round you could directly solder the PS2 mouse socket
    on it (the two missing pins are the hole of the PS2 mouse socket).

Thank you Jim McKie (jmk@plan9.research.att.com) for buzzing it out on the
P54NP4 and thank you Reid Trimble (reid@lvld.hp.com) for calling ASUStek
to get the information for the P54SP4.

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